Aristocrat Models

New Aristocrat Models: s/n 2627xx to 267xxx; 1932 to 1934
Aristocrat (Series I): s/n 267xxx to 291xxx; 1934 to 1941
"Big B" Models: s/n 291xxx to 355xxx; 1941 to 1955
Aristocrat (Series II -- model 140 alto, etc.): s/n 331xxx to 355xxx; 1951 to 1959
Aristocrat (Series III -- model 141 alto, etc.): s/n 355xxx to 405xxx; 1959 to 1964
Selmer Models: s/n 405xxx and later; 1964 and later

-- all serial numbers approximate --

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There is some controversy as to these model breakdowns, post "Big B" models. Please see the SOTW forum and my followup article (1/21/02)

 

Techie Notes:
- Bass, soprano and sopranino models were discontinued as a production model when the True Tone was discontinued. The bass and curved soprano were available as "custom order" horns and were essentially True Tone horns with different engraving and minor keywork improvements. The bass and soprano made a return around 1959 as a production model.
- The Aristocrat "I's" were essentially New Aristocrats, but with different engraving, until about s/n 269xxx or 270xxx when the bell keys switched to the LH side of the horn. Many people consider the New Aristocrat the "transitional" horn and Aristocrats after 270xxx "true" Aristocrats.
- I can tell essentially no difference between the Big B and model 140 Aristocrat altos, except that the 140 has less elaborate engraving. All other tooling appears identical.
- The Aristocrat is a much more classical horn than the 400 -- Sigurd Rascher used to advertise them! -- They have exceptional intonation, a "complex" dark sound and are fairly nice to play. However, I don't like the G#/C#/B/Bb key cluster -- I think it's too tight.
- The Big B and 400 "Top Hat and Cane" models introduced gold-plated, screw-in Norton springs. These are exceptionally nice and very springy, even when the rest of the horn is in bad shape.
- Some Big B models were available with a sterling silver neck.
- Looking at the model chart, the implication is that the Big B overlapped the model 140 a bit.
- Its probable that these horns were available in gold plate, up until the introduction of the model 141, but I have yet to see one.
- After Selmer bought the company around 1963, the Aristocrat quickly exolved into the Bundy.

 

 

New Aristocrat Models
Tenors
s/n 266xxx
Thanks to vintagesax.com

 

 

Aristocrat, Series I
Split-Bell Key Altos
s/n 268xxx
Thanks to vintagesax.com
Silver Picture Directory

 

 

Big B Models
Baritones (model 129)
s/n 353xxx
From eBay.com
Lacquer Picture Directory
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Aristocrat, Series III (model 140, etc.)
Tenors
s/n 335xxx
Thanks to vintagesax.com
Lacquer Picture Directory
Baritones
s/n 345xxx
From eBay.com
Lacquer Picture Directory

 

 

Aristocrat, Series IV
From paulwl, a poster on Sax-on-the-Web. My notes are in red.

I have before me as I write this a 2pp spread Buescher magazine ad from the Sept. 29, 1960 issue of Down Beat Magazine advertising "THE MOST COMPLETE LINE OF SAXOPHONES of All-American Parts and Workmanship." The ad is illustrated with black and white photo cuts of the following horns:

S-90 Bass (keyed to high Eb with split bell keys and no Bb-bis, like True-Tones)

S-80 Baritone / S-20 Tenor (model 157)/ S-1 Alto (model 141) (all with 400-type large flare bells and bell keys facing the stack)

S-50 Bb Soprano / 123 Eb Sopranino (both straight -- horns appear to have no side or palm keys!)

Altos
s/n 375xxx
From eBay.com
Two-Tone Picture Directory
Tenors
s/n 355144
Thanks to saxquest.com
Two-Tone Picture Directory
Baritones
s/n 358xxx
Thanks to vintagesax.com
Two-Tone Picture Directory

 

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